Tony Parker was one of the 20 leading scorers in one season on this site.
His map for each is below, drawn from the same tables and checks as the season pages: size is how often he shot from
a hexagon, color is his field-goal percentage there minus the league's from the same hexagon that season. Hover or
tap a hexagon for its numbers. Each season is measured against that season's league, and NBA.com's shot-type labels
changed over the years, so compare his shot types within a season, not across seasons.
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Season Rank PPG G Half-court att.
Points per shot eFG% TS% PER USG% WS WS/48 BPM VORP 2008-09 12 22.0 72 1263 1.03 .513 .556 23.4 31.7 8.6 .168 3.6 3.5 card
3 ft hexagons, 10-shot floor 3 ft, pooled with the 6 around it
Percentage points above or below the league: -15 -10 -5 +0 +5 +10 +15
In the pooled view a hexagon's color comes from it and the six around it, but its size is still his own attempts in that one hexagon, so a small hexagon can carry a strong color its neighbours earned. Hover or tap it to see how many shots the color rests on.
2008-09 12th in points per game, 22.0, in 72 games · 1263 half-court attempts · 1.03 points per shot
1 attempts here. On 1: 0.0% against the league's 33.3% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 0.0% against the league's 36.4% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 50.0% against the league's 38.4% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 0.0% against the league's 35.2% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 100.0% against the league's 37.5% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 100.0% against the league's 39.3% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 0.0% against the league's 38.8% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 50.0% against the league's 38.3% (below the floor, not colored) 6 attempts here. On 6: 16.7% against the league's 36.7% (below the floor, not colored) 7 attempts here. On 7: 42.9% against the league's 39.9% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 0.0% against the league's 38.6% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 100.0% against the league's 36.7% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 100.0% against the league's 39.9% (below the floor, not colored) 5 attempts here. On 5: 40.0% against the league's 37.0% (below the floor, not colored) 11 attempts here. On 11: 18.2% against the league's 40.1% 13 attempts here. On 13: 46.2% against the league's 41.8% 2 attempts here. On 2: 50.0% against the league's 42.6% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 0.0% against the league's 37.7% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 100.0% against the league's 37.4% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 0.0% against the league's 39.8% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 0.0% against the league's 39.1% (below the floor, not colored) 6 attempts here. On 6: 66.7% against the league's 40.2% (below the floor, not colored) 5 attempts here. On 5: 60.0% against the league's 39.4% (below the floor, not colored) 17 attempts here. On 17: 35.3% against the league's 39.6% 23 attempts here. On 23: 65.2% against the league's 42.7% 26 attempts here. On 26: 57.7% against the league's 39.0% 6 attempts here. On 6: 50.0% against the league's 38.8% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 0.0% against the league's 41.0% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 0.0% against the league's 36.9% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 0.0% against the league's 33.2% (below the floor, not colored) 5 attempts here. On 5: 20.0% against the league's 41.5% (below the floor, not colored) 6 attempts here. On 6: 0.0% against the league's 40.4% (below the floor, not colored) 6 attempts here. On 6: 50.0% against the league's 40.3% (below the floor, not colored) 9 attempts here. On 9: 22.2% against the league's 36.5% (below the floor, not colored) 10 attempts here. On 10: 40.0% against the league's 39.1% 20 attempts here. On 20: 30.0% against the league's 41.0% 21 attempts here. On 21: 33.3% against the league's 45.8% 9 attempts here. On 9: 33.3% against the league's 39.6% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 0.0% against the league's 37.9% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 100.0% against the league's 42.3% (below the floor, not colored) 5 attempts here. On 5: 20.0% against the league's 39.9% (below the floor, not colored) 4 attempts here. On 4: 25.0% against the league's 41.1% (below the floor, not colored) 3 attempts here. On 3: 0.0% against the league's 36.7% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 50.0% against the league's 36.9% (below the floor, not colored) 4 attempts here. On 4: 0.0% against the league's 40.0% (below the floor, not colored) 5 attempts here. On 5: 20.0% against the league's 43.4% (below the floor, not colored) 6 attempts here. On 6: 33.3% against the league's 40.2% (below the floor, not colored) 13 attempts here. On 13: 69.2% against the league's 39.8% 8 attempts here. On 8: 50.0% against the league's 39.9% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 100.0% against the league's 38.1% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 0.0% against the league's 36.1% (below the floor, not colored) 3 attempts here. On 3: 33.3% against the league's 35.0% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 0.0% against the league's 37.3% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 0.0% against the league's 41.0% (below the floor, not colored) 3 attempts here. On 3: 33.3% against the league's 45.3% (below the floor, not colored) 5 attempts here. On 5: 40.0% against the league's 44.0% (below the floor, not colored) 10 attempts here. On 10: 80.0% against the league's 45.4% 3 attempts here. On 3: 33.3% against the league's 39.9% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 50.0% against the league's 41.6% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 0.0% against the league's 44.8% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 100.0% against the league's 40.8% (below the floor, not colored) 7 attempts here. On 7: 28.6% against the league's 42.1% (below the floor, not colored) 12 attempts here. On 12: 66.7% against the league's 40.1% 4 attempts here. On 4: 25.0% against the league's 37.2% (below the floor, not colored) 3 attempts here. On 3: 33.3% against the league's 42.3% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 0.0% against the league's 43.6% (below the floor, not colored) 8 attempts here. On 8: 37.5% against the league's 43.4% (below the floor, not colored) 3 attempts here. On 3: 33.3% against the league's 42.3% (below the floor, not colored) 3 attempts here. On 3: 0.0% against the league's 43.1% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 50.0% against the league's 36.3% (below the floor, not colored) 3 attempts here. On 3: 0.0% against the league's 42.0% (below the floor, not colored) 10 attempts here. On 10: 40.0% against the league's 40.0% 14 attempts here. On 14: 50.0% against the league's 41.9% 5 attempts here. On 5: 40.0% against the league's 41.3% (below the floor, not colored) 3 attempts here. On 3: 66.7% against the league's 39.9% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 0.0% against the league's 44.0% (below the floor, not colored) 4 attempts here. On 4: 100.0% against the league's 45.4% (below the floor, not colored) 4 attempts here. On 4: 50.0% against the league's 40.9% (below the floor, not colored) 6 attempts here. On 6: 66.7% against the league's 38.1% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 0.0% against the league's 38.2% (below the floor, not colored) 43 attempts here. On 43: 58.1% against the league's 52.0% 31 attempts here. On 31: 58.1% against the league's 47.5% 34 attempts here. On 34: 41.2% against the league's 47.3% 9 attempts here. On 9: 33.3% against the league's 43.3% (below the floor, not colored) 4 attempts here. On 4: 25.0% against the league's 38.0% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 0.0% against the league's 38.2% (below the floor, not colored) 8 attempts here. On 8: 12.5% against the league's 45.1% (below the floor, not colored) 16 attempts here. On 16: 56.2% against the league's 40.2% 4 attempts here. On 4: 25.0% against the league's 37.3% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 0.0% against the league's 37.4% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 0.0% against the league's 27.8% (below the floor, not colored) 3 attempts here. On 3: 100.0% against the league's 66.7% (below the floor, not colored) 373 attempts here. On 373: 64.9% against the league's 60.7% 42 attempts here. On 42: 54.8% against the league's 50.5% 22 attempts here. On 22: 50.0% against the league's 42.3% 6 attempts here. On 6: 50.0% against the league's 37.8% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 50.0% against the league's 39.0% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 100.0% against the league's 39.8% (below the floor, not colored) 8 attempts here. On 8: 50.0% against the league's 42.6% (below the floor, not colored) 12 attempts here. On 12: 66.7% against the league's 40.9% 3 attempts here. On 3: 33.3% against the league's 38.6% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 0.0% against the league's 35.7% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 100.0% against the league's 56.5% (below the floor, not colored) 35 attempts here. On 35: 68.6% against the league's 53.8% 9 attempts here. On 9: 44.4% against the league's 38.8% (below the floor, not colored) 14 attempts here. On 14: 35.7% against the league's 40.2% 2 attempts here. On 2: 50.0% against the league's 41.8% (below the floor, not colored) 8 attempts here. On 8: 50.0% against the league's 43.3% (below the floor, not colored) 11 attempts here. On 11: 36.4% against the league's 43.6% 3 attempts here. On 3: 33.3% against the league's 36.5% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 100.0% against the league's 35.2% (below the floor, not colored) 6 attempts here. On 6: 66.7% against the league's 40.1% (below the floor, not colored) 10 attempts here. On 10: 30.0% against the league's 39.5% 4 attempts here. On 4: 25.0% against the league's 36.2% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 0.0% against the league's 36.1% (below the floor, not colored) 3 attempts here. On 3: 33.3% against the league's 41.4% (below the floor, not colored) 13 attempts here. On 13: 38.5% against the league's 41.8% 2 attempts here. On 2: 50.0% against the league's 43.3% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 0.0% against the league's 38.7% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 0.0% against the league's 36.5% (below the floor, not colored) 7 attempts here. On 7: 28.6% against the league's 36.9% (below the floor, not colored) 4 attempts here. On 4: 50.0% against the league's 35.7% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 100.0% against the league's 37.5% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 100.0% against the league's 42.3% (below the floor, not colored) 16 attempts here. On 16: 37.5% against the league's 39.1% 2 attempts here. On 2: 50.0% against the league's 37.6% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 0.0% against the league's 39.0% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 0.0% against the league's 35.8% (below the floor, not colored) 5 attempts here. On 5: 0.0% against the league's 36.5% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 50.0% against the league's 39.4% (below the floor, not colored) 6 attempts here. On 6: 66.7% against the league's 39.6% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 0.0% against the league's 37.6% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 0.0% against the league's 36.4% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 50.0% against the league's 40.6% (below the floor, not colored) 3 attempts here. On 3: 33.3% against the league's 38.1% (below the floor, not colored) 7 attempts here. On 7: 14.3% against the league's 38.4% (below the floor, not colored) 3 attempts here. On 3: 66.7% against the league's 35.7% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 50.0% against the league's 40.1% (below the floor, not colored) 4 attempts here. On 4: 50.0% against the league's 40.1% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 100.0% against the league's 40.6% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 0.0% against the league's 36.1% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 50.0% against the league's 38.0% (below the floor, not colored) 5 attempts here. On 5: 40.0% against the league's 41.1% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 2: 0.0% against the league's 41.8% (below the floor, not colored) 6 attempts here. On 6: 33.3% against the league's 39.8% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 1: 100.0% against the league's 39.1% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 3: 33.3% against the league's 35.8% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 6: 16.7% against the league's 36.6% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 8: 25.0% against the league's 37.7% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 11: 27.3% against the league's 36.8% 1 attempts here. On 5: 100.0% against the league's 38.9% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 10: 60.0% against the league's 36.6% 2 attempts here. On 31: 32.3% against the league's 38.2% 2 attempts here. On 28: 35.7% against the league's 38.3% 6 attempts here. On 13: 23.1% against the league's 36.8% 7 attempts here. On 11: 27.3% against the league's 39.6% 2 attempts here. On 13: 30.8% against the league's 39.3% 1 attempts here. On 13: 61.5% against the league's 39.0% 2 attempts here. On 21: 66.7% against the league's 38.9% 5 attempts here. On 41: 39.0% against the league's 38.7% 11 attempts here. On 71: 43.7% against the league's 39.7% 13 attempts here. On 79: 50.6% against the league's 40.1% 2 attempts here. On 57: 47.4% against the league's 38.6% 2 attempts here. On 19: 31.6% against the league's 37.4% 1 attempts here. On 6: 16.7% against the league's 36.7% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 17: 23.5% against the league's 40.0% 1 attempts here. On 23: 26.1% against the league's 39.7% 6 attempts here. On 27: 48.1% against the league's 39.8% 5 attempts here. On 50: 44.0% against the league's 39.1% 17 attempts here. On 80: 42.5% against the league's 39.6% 23 attempts here. On 120: 45.0% against the league's 40.5% 26 attempts here. On 111: 47.7% against the league's 41.7% 6 attempts here. On 68: 42.6% against the league's 40.6% 2 attempts here. On 22: 31.8% against the league's 38.2% 1 attempts here. On 7: 28.6% against the league's 37.7% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 3: 33.3% against the league's 36.5% (below the floor, not colored) 5 attempts here. On 19: 10.5% against the league's 40.1% 6 attempts here. On 33: 30.3% against the league's 40.4% 6 attempts here. On 39: 33.3% against the league's 39.4% 9 attempts here. On 52: 36.5% against the league's 38.6% 10 attempts here. On 85: 40.0% against the league's 39.8% 20 attempts here. On 109: 44.0% against the league's 41.7% 21 attempts here. On 93: 39.8% against the league's 41.2% 9 attempts here. On 58: 41.4% against the league's 41.0% 1 attempts here. On 35: 48.6% against the league's 39.4% 1 attempts here. On 12: 41.7% against the league's 37.8% 5 attempts here. On 21: 19.0% against the league's 40.4% 4 attempts here. On 27: 22.2% against the league's 39.2% 3 attempts here. On 29: 27.6% against the league's 37.8% 2 attempts here. On 33: 24.2% against the league's 37.2% 4 attempts here. On 45: 26.7% against the league's 40.0% 5 attempts here. On 61: 27.9% against the league's 42.6% 6 attempts here. On 62: 40.3% against the league's 42.4% 13 attempts here. On 52: 53.8% against the league's 41.1% 8 attempts here. On 36: 63.9% against the league's 41.1% 1 attempts here. On 14: 28.6% against the league's 39.5% 2 attempts here. On 21: 28.6% against the league's 38.8% 3 attempts here. On 31: 38.7% against the league's 38.2% 2 attempts here. On 29: 37.9% against the league's 38.3% 2 attempts here. On 23: 17.4% against the league's 40.5% 3 attempts here. On 25: 28.0% against the league's 42.6% 5 attempts here. On 46: 54.3% against the league's 42.9% 10 attempts here. On 50: 56.0% against the league's 42.1% 3 attempts here. On 29: 51.7% against the league's 42.0% 2 attempts here. On 10: 30.0% against the league's 38.8% 1 attempts here. On 3: 66.7% against the league's 40.3% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 15: 26.7% against the league's 39.7% 7 attempts here. On 38: 42.1% against the league's 39.5% 12 attempts here. On 52: 44.2% against the league's 39.7% 4 attempts here. On 42: 45.2% against the league's 40.4% 3 attempts here. On 21: 33.3% against the league's 40.9% 1 attempts here. On 24: 37.5% against the league's 42.8% 8 attempts here. On 32: 56.2% against the league's 43.9% 3 attempts here. On 35: 54.3% against the league's 42.6% 3 attempts here. On 23: 43.5% against the league's 40.6% 2 attempts here. On 14: 42.9% against the league's 38.3% 3 attempts here. On 64: 50.0% against the league's 43.9% 10 attempts here. On 120: 53.3% against the league's 44.3% 14 attempts here. On 110: 49.1% against the league's 43.7% 5 attempts here. On 72: 41.7% against the league's 43.2% 3 attempts here. On 26: 34.6% against the league's 41.8% 1 attempts here. On 22: 45.5% against the league's 41.9% 4 attempts here. On 29: 37.9% against the league's 42.9% 4 attempts here. On 44: 47.7% against the league's 42.1% 6 attempts here. On 36: 47.2% against the league's 39.4% 1 attempts here. On 14: 42.9% against the league's 37.0% 43 attempts here. On 463: 63.1% against the league's 59.5% 31 attempts here. On 547: 60.9% against the league's 58.4% 34 attempts here. On 157: 49.7% against the league's 45.8% 9 attempts here. On 83: 43.4% against the league's 43.0% 4 attempts here. On 26: 38.5% against the league's 40.6% 1 attempts here. On 21: 38.1% against the league's 41.6% 8 attempts here. On 42: 50.0% against the league's 41.9% 16 attempts here. On 58: 50.0% against the league's 41.2% 4 attempts here. On 43: 53.5% against the league's 38.7% 1 attempts here. On 10: 20.0% against the league's 37.1% 1 attempts here. On 1: 0.0% against the league's 26.6% (below the floor, not colored) 3 attempts here. On 420: 64.5% against the league's 60.5% 373 attempts here. On 528: 63.6% against the league's 59.4% 42 attempts here. On 546: 61.5% against the league's 58.2% 22 attempts here. On 136: 46.3% against the league's 44.5% 6 attempts here. On 57: 42.1% against the league's 40.7% 2 attempts here. On 16: 43.8% against the league's 38.8% 1 attempts here. On 30: 40.0% against the league's 41.9% 8 attempts here. On 64: 48.4% against the league's 42.3% 12 attempts here. On 57: 49.1% against the league's 40.8% 3 attempts here. On 26: 50.0% against the league's 37.2% 1 attempts here. On 7: 42.9% against the league's 36.1% (below the floor, not colored) 1 attempts here. On 412: 65.5% against the league's 60.5% 35 attempts here. On 466: 63.9% against the league's 59.4% 9 attempts here. On 138: 53.6% against the league's 45.0% 14 attempts here. On 65: 41.5% against the league's 39.4% 2 attempts here. On 17: 47.1% against the league's 40.3% 8 attempts here. On 46: 43.5% against the league's 42.3% 11 attempts here. On 57: 47.4% against the league's 42.2% 3 attempts here. On 35: 48.6% against the league's 39.2% 2 attempts here. On 12: 33.3% against the league's 36.7% 6 attempts here. On 67: 55.2% against the league's 43.4% 10 attempts here. On 54: 38.9% against the league's 38.4% 4 attempts here. On 35: 37.1% against the league's 38.0% 1 attempts here. On 14: 50.0% against the league's 38.9% 3 attempts here. On 45: 42.2% against the league's 41.1% 13 attempts here. On 55: 40.0% against the league's 41.7% 2 attempts here. On 35: 34.3% against the league's 40.5% 2 attempts here. On 13: 30.8% against the league's 37.5% 1 attempts here. On 6: 33.3% against the league's 36.2% (below the floor, not colored) 7 attempts here. On 27: 40.7% against the league's 38.5% 4 attempts here. On 32: 31.2% against the league's 37.6% 2 attempts here. On 20: 40.0% against the league's 37.6% 2 attempts here. On 32: 50.0% against the league's 39.5% 16 attempts here. On 43: 44.2% against the league's 40.2% 2 attempts here. On 36: 36.1% against the league's 39.8% 2 attempts here. On 10: 20.0% against the league's 38.4% 1 attempts here. On 7: 0.0% against the league's 37.5% (below the floor, not colored) 5 attempts here. On 18: 38.9% against the league's 38.2% 2 attempts here. On 27: 40.7% against the league's 38.7% 6 attempts here. On 37: 43.2% against the league's 39.2% 1 attempts here. On 28: 46.4% against the league's 38.0% 1 attempts here. On 4: 0.0% against the league's 36.8% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 12: 25.0% against the league's 39.2% 3 attempts here. On 25: 28.0% against the league's 39.0% 7 attempts here. On 27: 48.1% against the league's 38.9% 3 attempts here. On 19: 47.4% against the league's 37.9% 2 attempts here. On 14: 42.9% against the league's 39.5% 4 attempts here. On 25: 40.0% against the league's 39.6% 2 attempts here. On 21: 42.9% against the league's 39.2% 1 attempts here. On 7: 28.6% against the league's 39.8% (below the floor, not colored) 2 attempts here. On 22: 36.4% against the league's 40.0% 5 attempts here. On 20: 50.0% against the league's 39.7% 2 attempts here. On 11: 27.3% against the league's 39.4% 6 attempts here. On 16: 37.5% against the league's 40.1% 1 attempts here. On 12: 41.7% against the league's 39.9%
eFG% .513TS% .556PER 23.4USG% 31.7WS 8.6WS/48 .168BPM 3.6VORP 3.5Shot types Jump Shot 576 (46% of his shots): 36% made, league 35% · Layup Shot 273 (22% of his shots): 54% made, league 44% · Driving Layup Shot 177 (14% of his shots): 77% made, league 72% · Pullup Jump shot 44 (3% of his shots): 66% made, league 72%
All 25 shot types Type (NBA.com label) Att FG% League Gap Jump Shot 576 35.8% 35.1% +0.7 Layup Shot 273 53.8% 44.0% +9.9 Driving Layup Shot 177 77.4% 71.8% +5.6 Pullup Jump shot 44 65.9% 71.7% -5.8 Running Jump Shot 43 51.2% 49.2% +1.9 Floating Jump shot 42 64.3% 65.4% -1.1 Reverse Layup Shot 21 61.9% 66.1% -4.2 Driving Finger Roll Layup Shot 14 92.9% 80.8% +12.1 Driving Reverse Layup Shot 14 78.6% 70.1% +8.5 Running Layup Shot 11 63.6% 70.6% -7.0 Step Back Jump shot 8 37.5% under 10 attempts, not compared Jump Bank Shot 7 71.4% under 10 attempts, not compared Driving Jump shot 6 33.3% under 10 attempts, not compared Turnaround Jump Shot 6 50.0% under 10 attempts, not compared Fadeaway Jump Shot 5 60.0% under 10 attempts, not compared Finger Roll Layup Shot 3 66.7% under 10 attempts, not compared Running Hook Shot 3 66.7% under 10 attempts, not compared Jump Hook Shot 2 50.0% under 10 attempts, not compared Running Bank shot 2 100.0% under 10 attempts, not compared Driving Hook Shot 1 0.0% under 10 attempts, not compared Hook Shot 1 0.0% under 10 attempts, not compared Pullup Bank shot 1 100.0% under 10 attempts, not compared Running Reverse Layup Shot 1 100.0% under 10 attempts, not compared Turnaround Bank shot 1 100.0% under 10 attempts, not compared Turnaround Fadeaway shot 1 100.0% under 10 attempts, not compared
His card on the 2008-09 page